Comments on: iPhone 3G Achilles Heal http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/ the philosophy of technology Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:05:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta2-9582 hourly 1 By: fishwreck http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35727 fishwreck Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:12:28 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35727 Does BIS/BES push the entire message or just a notification? Will Apple's notification service send only a notification (thus requiring the target app to pull the rest of the message, if there is one)? It strikes me that scaling a service that simply forwards SMS-length notifications is vastly easier than scaling a service that forwards email-length messages. Does BIS/BES push the entire message or just a notification? Will Apple’s notification service send only a notification (thus requiring the target app to pull the rest of the message, if there is one)? It strikes me that scaling a service that simply forwards SMS-length notifications is vastly easier than scaling a service that forwards email-length messages.

]]> By: Marc http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35720 Marc Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:52:04 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35720 Good "call"???? What are you, a comedian? :p Good “call”???? What are you, a comedian? :p

]]> By: Jackson Miller http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35719 Jackson Miller Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:41 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35719 Oooh, good call Marc! Oooh, good call Marc!

]]> By: Marc http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35718 Marc Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:09:49 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35718 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is iPhone 2.0 functionality. So you won't need a 3G iPhone to get it. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe this is iPhone 2.0 functionality. So you won’t need a 3G iPhone to get it.

]]> By: Jon http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35716 Jon Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:21:56 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35716 http://www.process-one.net/en/blogs/article/official_xmpp_client_in_the_iphone/ It is really just a rumor and there hasn't been any confirmation on whether or not XMPP will be supported. Their isn't an SDK out yet using the push framework, so we'll have to just wait and see what happens. If it isn't decentralized, then you've hit the nail on the head. All of the traffic from pushing out all those notifications will cripple their infrastructure. http://www.process-one.net/en/blogs/article/official_xmpp_client_in_the_iphone/

It is really just a rumor and there hasn’t been any confirmation on whether or not XMPP will be supported. Their isn’t an SDK out yet using the push framework, so we’ll have to just wait and see what happens.

If it isn’t decentralized, then you’ve hit the nail on the head. All of the traffic from pushing out all those notifications will cripple their infrastructure.

]]> By: Jackson Miller http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35715 Jackson Miller Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:13:33 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35715 Jon, Do you have a reference for Apple using XMPP for the Push Notifications? The way I have heard Push Notifications explained, it will be a single point of failure with or without XMPP since all of the notifications will be routed through an Apple service. Jon,

Do you have a reference for Apple using XMPP for the Push Notifications? The way I have heard Push Notifications explained, it will be a single point of failure with or without XMPP since all of the notifications will be routed through an Apple service.

]]> By: Jon http://jaxn.org/article/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-achilles-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-35714 Jon Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:59:40 +0000 http://jaxn.org/?p=12108#comment-35714 For the most part, I agree with you. The problem with the Blackberry outages is really a problem with decentralization. You have a single point of failure. From what I've heard, Apple can help to fix that with XMPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber). It is built around the idea of being decentralized. So all of these messages being sent to the server, and the pushed down to the client, can be done in a more efficient way by using multiple servers handling the messaging. Also, XMPP is an open source protocol. Exactly what Apple has shown to like with it's server software. What do you think the chances are that the next version of their server software, Snow Leopard, uses XMPP for pushing out internal, corporate information? For the most part, I agree with you. The problem with the Blackberry outages is really a problem with decentralization. You have a single point of failure. From what I’ve heard, Apple can help to fix that with XMPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber). It is built around the idea of being decentralized. So all of these messages being sent to the server, and the pushed down to the client, can be done in a more efficient way by using multiple servers handling the messaging.

Also, XMPP is an open source protocol. Exactly what Apple has shown to like with it’s server software. What do you think the chances are that the next version of their server software, Snow Leopard, uses XMPP for pushing out internal, corporate information?

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