Comments on: Development Philosophy http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/ the philosophy of technology Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:31:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BradW http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33847 BradW Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:05:09 +0000 http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33847 Thanks for the props - and I couldn't agree more about the directions of ruby web frameworks! Hope all is well bro. Thanks for the props - and I couldn’t agree more about the directions of ruby web frameworks!

Hope all is well bro.

]]> By: Jon http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33844 Jon Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:31:08 +0000 http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33844 Hobo is another interesting project. It's built on top of rails and gives you a lot more than rails if you just want a simple project up and running quickly. Unfortunately, everything they use is very tightly coupled. That's a shame because I think that Hobo's templating system, DRYML, is better than using erb and partials. DRYML lets you create your own tags and the templates you come up with look a lot like HTML. But the DRYML tags are actually ruby methods. So, if you have a good HTML developer, then you can let them create the face of your site with DRYML and you can keep working on the backend. On the filpside, trying to create your own tags in rails is a pain in the ass. You have the option of creating a custom formbuilder, but what happens if you want tags from several different form builders? You can overwrite the default tags, or maybe use alias_method_chain, but then what is the purpose of creating your own custom formbuilder? Anyway, that's some food for thought. I think Merb, Datamapper (w/ the validatable gem) and DRYML would be a killer combination. Routes and controllers from rails 2.0 could stay. Since they introduced namespaces the routing in rails has gotten much better. Hobo is another interesting project. It’s built on top of rails and gives you a lot more than rails if you just want a simple project up and running quickly. Unfortunately, everything they use is very tightly coupled.

That’s a shame because I think that Hobo’s templating system, DRYML, is better than using erb and partials. DRYML lets you create your own tags and the templates you come up with look a lot like HTML. But the DRYML tags are actually ruby methods. So, if you have a good HTML developer, then you can let them create the face of your site with DRYML and you can keep working on the backend.

On the filpside, trying to create your own tags in rails is a pain in the ass. You have the option of creating a custom formbuilder, but what happens if you want tags from several different form builders? You can overwrite the default tags, or maybe use alias_method_chain, but then what is the purpose of creating your own custom formbuilder?

Anyway, that’s some food for thought. I think Merb, Datamapper (w/ the validatable gem) and DRYML would be a killer combination. Routes and controllers from rails 2.0 could stay. Since they introduced namespaces the routing in rails has gotten much better.

]]> By: Cory Watson http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33835 Cory Watson Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:54:43 +0000 http://jaxn.org/article/2008/01/18/development-philosophy/#comment-33835 Catalyst ftw. Catalyst ftw.

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